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Apps Without Code

by Tara ReidLaunched 2019via Indie Hackers Podcast
MRR$417k/mo
Growthword of mouth
Time to PMF6 months
Pricingsubscription
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Tara Reid was working at Microsoft when she started building Collector, an art-matching app, entirely with no-code tools. Before no-code was even a mainstream movement, she was blogging about her experience and did a TEDx talk on building apps without code. The talk and blog generated an influx of emails from strangers asking her to teach them how to build apps the same way she did. "I was kind of frustrated at first because I was trying to run my own company and I don't have time for this," Tara recalls. But she decided to help just five people for $900 each, with the expectation it would be a one-time thing.

Building the First Version

That first cohort of five people built their apps, launched them, and got customers. When Tara opened it up again, 70 people signed up. She had doubled the price to $1,800. "I was like, oh wait, I think this is a whole business," she says. The first iteration wasn't a polished course—it was mostly Tara on the phone with prospective students, learning about their needs and signing them up directly. She was still running Collector at the time, but the new business was generating real revenue while requiring far less capital and offering more lifestyle flexibility than her VC-backed first company.

After about six months working on both, Tara made the difficult decision to shut down Collector (which had a $360K run rate and VC funding) to focus entirely on Apps Without Code. Her investors were supportive but not interested in this new direction. "I definitely dragged it on longer than I needed to," she admits. "I needed some time to muster up the courage."

Finding the First Customers

The early growth relied on personal relationships and direct outreach. Tara had a small email list of blog subscribers (100-150 people) and sent them an email offering to work with five people. She got on the phone with 15-20 people to understand their needs, signed up those who were a good fit. This was labor-intensive but highly effective—she could understand exactly what each person needed and position the program accordingly.

As demand grew beyond what phone calls could handle, Tara shifted to webinars. She also leveraged her network: partnerships with people like her friend at I'm Black in Tech, influencers like Danielle Leslie, and accounts like Black Girl Nerds for Instagram takeovers. These early partnerships ranged from $150 for a day-long takeover to $2,000-$3,000 for larger audiences. Because she was charging customers $1,000-$2,000 per enrollment, these marketing costs were trivial.

What Worked (and What Didn't)

The curriculum itself became a major competitive advantage. Tara structured the 8-week bootcamp counterintuitively: weeks 1-4 focus on business model, pricing, email marketing, and sales tactics. Only in weeks 5-8 do students actually build the app. "It's super sales heavy upfront, which always feels reversed for most people until they get through it," Cortland notes. But this mirrors Tara's own success—she sold before building, getting customers on the phone before having a polished product.

Tara also taught a critical lesson that many of her students internalized: white-labeling and B2B positioning generate far more revenue than consumer downloads. Rather than selling a $0.99 mindfulness app to individuals, students could license it to therapists or wellness companies for hundreds per month. She emphasized the "wrapping paper method"—packaging the product as a service (a personal stylist, a matchmaker, a business consultant) rather than just software.

What didn't work early on was pure organic growth or waiting for the product to be "perfect." Tara's breakthrough came when she started running paid social ads alongside affiliate partnerships. She also noticed something crucial: her face, voice, and lived experience (as a woman and person of color in tech) were irreplaceable marketing assets. People watching her live-build apps on Instagram felt a connection and saw themselves represented in tech in a way they hadn't before.

Where They Are Now

Four years in, Apps Without Code is a $5 million ARR business. The current price is $1,900 per student, and students get lifetime access, so many return to work on additional app ideas. The company has thousands of students per year. Growth channels have scaled from personal phone calls to partnerships (affiliate deals paying 10-30% commission) to paid social advertising, which has become increasingly important.

Tara now faces a different problem: not how to grow, but how big she *wants* the company to be. She's intentionally stepping back from the VC mentality that "you must scale at all costs." She wants to leave her kids a meaningful asset, but she's also conscious that growing beyond her current $400K monthly revenue will require sacrificing the lifestyle design she's built—the month-long trips, the 3-day work weeks, the ability to move fluidly between "go mode" and "incubation mode." "Every level you get to, you sort of have to reset the conversation about where are we going, what's the goal, what does success look like," she reflects. For Tara, success is no longer just revenue—it's freedom.

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