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Zinc

by Stacey EpsteinLaunched 2016-06via Nathan Latka Podcast
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Stacey Epstein joined Zinc not as a traditional founder, but as CEO to a company that already had a product with history. Kotap, founded by former product leads from Yammer after Microsoft's acquisition, had built a work texting app—essentially a WhatsApp for enterprise. It operated on a freemium model with a handful of customers, but had stalled on the go-to-market side. Together with the board, Epstein came in and made a bold move: they took Kotap's core assets, built them out significantly, and relaunched as Zinc in mid-2016. "The heritage of Kotap is just the core product," Epstein explained. The insight was clear: freemium wasn't going to work for a work communication app. "Nobody's looking for another messaging app to put on their phone," she said bluntly.

Building the First Version

Zinc kicked off with a $5 million seed round from Emergence Capital and CRV. The founding team used those dollars strategically—heavily investing in engineering to build out the product beyond its shell, and aggressively funding sales and marketing to acquire customers. The product architecture was intentional: designed for adoption by workers who don't use technology all day for their jobs. "You can't give them some complicated swipe here, dropdown there. It literally won't work on a phone," Epstein explained. They focused on making the solution frictionless so field service technicians, hotel workers, and construction crews would actually use it instead of reverting to unsanctioned consumer apps.

Finding the First Customers

Zinc's first 10 customers came from rollups of the legacy freemium model, but Epstein quickly realized that approach wouldn't scale. She shut off freemium after six months and pivoted to free trials for smaller companies and formal pilots for enterprise. The strategy worked. The company built a direct sales team—three account executives supported by six SDRs and two sales consultants—and began heavy outbound prospecting. One early win illustrated the product's speed to value: they took thousands of technicians live at Dish Network in just two weeks. By the time of this interview, Zinc had landed 70 enterprise customers representing between 10,000 and 100,000 employees each.

What Worked (and What Didn't)

Epstein emphasized that they're still in "heavy outbound market awareness mode." Unlike SuccessFactors (where she was CMO and helped fuel triple-digit growth), Zinc is building a market that doesn't yet exist in the buyer's mind. "This is not something that's on PG&E's list to buy. They're not searching, they're not typing it into their Google browser." What has worked is a simple, one-flavor product that doesn't require heavy customization. Communications platforms work broadly the same way across hotels, telcos, and utilities—the product is easy to implement and delivers quick time to value. The company still fiddles with sales ratios and acquisition channels constantly. Epstein revealed that she's a risk-taker who says yes to new channel experiments at small scale if they could move the needle. Her payback period threshold is roughly three to four months on a new customer acquisition.

Where They Are Now

Zinc has passed the $1 million ARR milestone with growth between 100-150% year-over-year. The company boasts remarkable unit economics: negative 17% net revenue churn, meaning they're expanding within existing customers through upsells. In April of the prior year, they raised a Series A led by GE Ventures (who saw themselves as a perfect customer), plus Hearst Ventures, with Emergence Capital and CRV following on. The team has grown to 30 people. Epstein's target is to reach $3-4M ARR by the end of the current year, with eyes on $5M ARR next year. She's thinking about the next round of funding at year-end. The company is proof that a product born from a failed startup can be revived, repositioned, and scaled when the right leader brings discipline to go-to-market.

Why It Worked
  • By acquiring rollover customers from an existing product (Kotap) before pivoting to paid enterprise sales, Zinc validated demand while building initial traction without starting from zero.
  • The founding team's prior experience building products at scale (Yammer) and running go-to-market at large companies (SuccessFactors) meant they understood both product architecture and enterprise sales discipline from day one.
  • Zinc solved a real pain point (field workers reverting to unsanctioned consumer messaging apps) by designing an intentionally simple product with zero learning curve, creating strong product-market fit that enabled rapid enterprise deployment.
  • Heavy investment in a dedicated direct sales team (account executives, SDRs, and sales consultants) paired with aggressive outbound prospecting proved necessary because the market didn't yet recognize the need, requiring Zinc to educate buyers rather than capture existing demand.
  • Abandoning freemium after six months and replacing it with free trials and enterprise pilots eliminated a misaligned business model and allowed the company to focus resources on high-value customer acquisition channels that actually converted.
How to Replicate
  • 1.If you have an existing product with traction but poor go-to-market, acquire or recruit experienced executives from successful companies who have scaled similar motions at scale rather than building a new team from scratch.
  • 2.Ruthlessly prioritize simplicity in product design by testing with your actual end users (non-tech workers) and removing any interaction that requires explanation or training, then measure adoption before claiming product-market fit.
  • 3.Build a dedicated direct sales organization (account executives + SDRs + sales engineers) and fund it adequately before launching outbound campaigns; expect to do heavy prospecting and market education since buyers in emerging categories aren't actively searching.
  • 4.Terminate go-to-market models that don't align with your customer economics (freemium in this case) within a specific timeframe (six months), then immediately redirect those resources and attention to the model that is converting (enterprise sales pilots).
  • 5.Focus your initial customer acquisition on deep vertical markets where your solution's horizontal benefits (simple messaging) map directly to a specific pain point (field worker communication), allowing you to land customers with 10,000-100,000 employees quickly and demonstrate reference-ability.

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