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Ask Method

by Ryan Levecvia Nathan Latka Podcast
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Ryan Levec didn't set out to write a book to make money directly—he wanted "the world's best business card." After successfully executing what he calls the "Ask Method" (using surveys and quizzes to build marketing funnels) across three markets—scrabble tile jewelry, orchid care, and memory improvement—generating over $1 million annually collectively, other entrepreneurs started asking him how he did it. His first paid consulting engagement came when a business offered him $50,000 upfront plus a 5% royalty on growth sales, which convinced him to pivot from selling his own products to consulting.

Building the First Version

Over the next decade, Ryan refined his methodology through deliberate practice across 23 different industries, including golf instruction, satellite TV, tennis instruction, and weight loss. His consulting model evolved to include retainers ($5,000/month), upfront funnel design fees ($50,000-$75,000), and royalties (5-10% on sales). This experience processing over $100 million in transaction volume gave him the confidence and data to package his approach into a book. He partnered with editor Karen Anderson at Dunham Books and spent approximately $1 million on production, graphic design, audiobook creation, and—most significantly—advertising and marketing.

Finding the First Customers

Ryan initially thought book distribution partners with email lists would drive sales, but most wanted payment participation despite him losing money on international shipping (e.g., $75 shipping to Mumbai). The breakthrough came from an unexpected source: podcasters. "Podcasters loved it. Absolutely loved it," he recalls. Instead of being selective, he appeared on dozens of shows, sometimes recording three to four podcasts per week. He worked with Esther Kiss to coordinate bookings across top shows (Entrepreneur on Fire, Pat Flynn's Smart Passive Income, Lead to Read) plus hundreds of smaller podcasts. This channel alone drove significantly more volume than traditional partnership routes.

What Worked (and What Didn't)

The book's first half—his personal rags-to-riches story—became the most polarizing element. While some readers wrote handwritten letters saying it inspired them, others left one-star Amazon reviews calling it self-aggrandizing. Advertising-wise, Facebook ads consumed hundreds of thousands of the $1M budget. The free-plus-shipping model, while expensive, worked as a customer acquisition funnel because it got the book into hands and positioned Ryan as an expert. The real value, Ryan emphasizes, wasn't in book royalties but in what happened next: positioning for consulting gigs and eventually his education business. Between 55,000 and 60,000 copies sold across formats (paperback, Kindle, audio).

Where They Are Now

Ryan shifted his business model entirely away from consulting to become an education company with about 25 employees. He no longer takes consulting clients, even at premium rates. Instead, he teaches the Ask Method to thousands of students across thousands of markets through courses and memberships. His metrics are staggering: in his most successful market, he generates between 95,000 and 100,000 email opt-ins (leads) per day using surveys and quizzes. He positioned himself for a six-figure advance (ideally $250,000-$500,000) on a second book, with plans to spend every penny on Facebook ads. His previous consulting work generates passive royalty income that "just kind of sits there, keep coming in every single month."

Why It Worked
  • By proving his methodology across 23 different industries before productizing it, Ryan built credible evidence and refined systems that made his approach universally applicable rather than niche-specific.
  • Podcasting succeeded because it aligned with Ryan's existing audience (entrepreneurs asking how he achieved results) and allowed direct credibility transfer through long-form storytelling, whereas traditional book partnerships required intermediaries who had misaligned incentives.
  • The book functioned as a customer acquisition funnel rather than a revenue source, converting readers into consulting clients and eventually education customers—meaning the $1M spend was a marketing investment with downstream monetization rather than a direct book sales play.
  • By appearing on dozens of podcasts at high frequency rather than pursuing selective placements, Ryan maximized reach within his target audience and accumulated sufficient customer volume to validate the education business model before building it.
How to Replicate
  • 1.Test your core methodology across at least 15-20 different industries or customer segments to identify universal principles and build a dataset that proves generalizability before packaging it as a product or course.
  • 2.Identify which channels allow direct credibility transfer to your target audience (in this case, entrepreneurs who already knew about Ryan's results), then commit to high-volume participation on those channels rather than expecting partnership intermediaries to drive customer acquisition.
  • 3.Price your book or initial product as a customer acquisition funnel using a free-plus-shipping or low-margin model, measuring success not by direct product revenue but by downstream conversions to higher-ticket offerings like consulting or education products.
  • 4.Coordinate outreach across podcast networks systematically by hiring a booking coordinator or agency to manage high-frequency appearances (3-4 per week), focusing on shows with audiences matching your ideal customer profile rather than pursuing prestige placements.

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