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Nest Labs

by Ann Lawvia Indie Hackers Podcast
MRR$2k/mo
Growthcontent marketing
Pricingsubscription
Built in24 hours for Teeny Breaks
The Spark

Ann Law's journey to building Nest Labs began with burnout. Working at Google on digital health products like Google Fit, she experienced severe imposter syndrome that led her to overwork, sacrifice sleep, and start drinking coffee just to stay awake. She eventually discovered she wasn't alone—an internal Google Plus group revealed hundreds of Googlers going through the same thing. This experience planted the seed for her later focus on helping makers avoid the same fate.

Building the First Version

After leaving Google inspired by the intersection of health and nutrition, Ann launched her first startup to help people eat better. However, it failed for two critical reasons: no clear monetization plan (the "save the world without thinking about revenue" trap) and a mismatched technical co-founder she barely knew. She describes it as "getting married after a one night stand." This failure, combined with discovering indie hackers, made her realize that sustainable business models matter as much as solving world problems.

Finding the First Customers

Instead of immediately starting another company, Ann made a strategic pivot: she returned to study neuroscience part-time at King's College London while freelancing as a consultant. This allowed her to learn deeply about a topic she was passionate about rather than building solutions first and hoping they'd solve problems later. Her first product, Teeny Breaks, emerged from a 24-hour startup challenge—a Chrome extension reminding makers to take mindful breaks backed by science. She intentionally kept it free since it cost nothing to maintain.

In July, she launched Make Your Mind (originally called MakerMind), committing to publish one article daily on the intersection of neuroscience and entrepreneurship. "The first month after you launched you were able to grow from pretty much nothing to 2,000 email subscribers." She attributes this explosive growth to consistency and the "Pareto principle"—by writing every day, she increased the odds that something would go viral. One article hit 30,000 views on Hacker News in a single day, though she still can't explain which elements made it work.

What Worked (and What Didn't)

Ann's key insight was finding a niche at the intersection of two popular topics. "What's nice is that it's unique enough to make it easy to differentiate and to pitch to people... but at the same time it's not too niche where I would really struggle to find an audience." She discovered that writing for herself—about topics she genuinely cared about—naturally attracted an audience of similar-minded people on Twitter.

Her most effective growth strategy was systematic content distribution without cold outreach. She posts consistently on Twitter (her primary channel with its "ripple effect"), LinkedIn (Mindful Mondays), Hacker News, and relevant Facebook groups. "The ones that worked brought me so many subscribers also another ripple effect is that there are lots of people who curate content for their own newsletters and their websites and their blogs based on what's trending on Hacker News."

Monetization came entirely inbound. Maker Mag, launched in December with 70 community collaborators, generates revenue through sponsors like BlockStack and MakerPad—all unsolicited. Make Your Mind's first sponsor, Ivy (a mindful productivity app), discovered the newsletter on Product Hunt and reached out unprompted. "It's all been inbound... the content itself is marketing basically."

Where They Are Now

Nest Labs now encompasses three products working in synergy. Make Your Mind reached 5,000 subscribers in 3 months, with a committed sponsor for 6 weeks. Maker Mag generates "$1500 a month in revenue" from sponsorships and publishes weekly articles plus a monthly podcast. Teeny Breaks, while unmoneytized, serves as part of her product portfolio addressing her core mission. Ann's advice to early-stage makers: "Work in public. Share what you're doing, share your milestones on indie hackers, tweets, post on medium your own blog whatever but don't expect people to just find you if you're kind of like working in the dark."

Her story exemplifies building from passion rather than desperation, creating multiple revenue streams from a single audience, and using consistency and public sharing as the primary growth engine.

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